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February 19, 2009 05:29 PM UTC
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…and his gotcha-politics.
Is Huttnerian and the new Rovian?
peter boyles has complained that the sign showing a cycle and a hammer, emblem of communist russia, did not get equal play in the media at the repub “meet up”…. the sign of Der Fuhrer got all the attention…
Now I don’t know exactly what boyles beef is:
Stalin killed more people than Hitler, so Der Fuhrer doesn’t
look so bad in comparison, only the media has a “jones” for Hitler????
Or, Stalin is entitled to equal time and coverage and the leftist media is protecting him…
I don’t know….but equal time is equal time….can someone post a sign of cycle and the hammer???
This is the blog for wingnut “elpresidente” who graced us with his presence yesterday…
http://slapstickpolitics.blogs…
Scroll down about 2/3 the way for swastika guy; hammer and sickle guy is in the same shot.
Anyway, they don’t have a point on this matter. For all of communism’s evils (and they are many), we have a stronger reaction to nazism, so swastika guy makes better copy. Additionally, ‘pubs have been calling liberals “commie” for decades, so hammer and sickle guy is so much “dog bites man” news.
Emailed to us yesterday:
Sickle. Not cycle. Who knew? See the beauty of this blog. Immediate response and no points off for bad spelling.
that folks have focused more on the swastika than the hammer and sickle? Ok, I’ll condemn the organizers for not removing that hammer and sickle sign also. There, does that make you feel better?
Caldera et.al. did not remove the swastika guy…..
the stock market is crashing……..perhaps all of this crap is so we won’t notice.
Glenn Greenwald compiled an abbreviated list of Nazi references from right-wingers.
Mike Rosen is one of the most frequent practicioners, but most of the right-wing Colorado talk radio crowd has bathed themselves in the Nazi waters at one time or another:
http://colorado.mediamatters.o…
“Third Reich” references are big with the ersatz “Gunny Bob” Newman, as well:
http://colorado.mediamatters.o…
I can imagine two signs that would have been rushed off the stage because even in the crush of the crowd, someone would have noticed them and realized how dangerous they were for the Republicans and right-wingers.
– An overtly racist message about Obama featuring the N word.
– Threat of violence against Obama along the lines of the phrases shouted at Palin rallies last fall (“Kill Him”)
I cannot imagine the crowd wouldn’t have policed itself or one of the organizers or aides to an elected wouldn’t have yanked those signs and ushered anyone displaying them from the scene.
Why didn’t the swastika excite that reaction from all those media-savvy politicians? Are they really that tone deaf?
If it had just been a public rally, without the Republican elected officials, it might be understandable. There had to be someone in that crowd who knew those signs needed to be out of there – unless, they just thought they were okay.
It just shows in my opinion what Republicans have thought for years.
They are basically hateful hypocrites that have the right to freedom of assembly and free speech like everyone else.
This is really fun to watch. The wingers can’t organize an event, they can’t craft a message and they can’t stay on point. Every time they open their mouths something dumber comes out.
Kudos to ProgressNow and Mike Huttner. They always seem to manage to catch these idiots with their pants down. The wingers never fail to get completely flustered, flail about and make everything worse. It’s been like watching a slow motion train wreck for the last few days.
“Bushitler?” Someone will say something stupid ALL of the time. I’ve never heard “Bushitler” before you wrote it and I read a LOT. Maybe it’s been circulating in your world, but not on planet Colorado, where (beleive me) things are weird enough without you. Anyway, thoughtful descriptions for our former President (Bush) have included more than two-syllables: I’m thinking of “chronically inexperienced,” “befuddled,” “not a curious man,” “self-satisfied dimwit,” and a host of others.
No serious person, Michelle really, thinks of Bush as a ‘hitler.’ Most critics (and is that okay with you?) have come to think of him as a limited man who allowed himself to be manipulated by his Vice President and Chief of Staff. Or a hapless and gutless dunderhead who delegated freely to ‘czars’ like David Petreaus and Henry Paulson to permit him to take long vacations and carryon jovial relations with his enablers. I wish it were true but he’s not even the souless, efficient Eichmann. He’s unique.
A caricature in the Hitler neighborhood doesn’t really come to mind… if it did, it would be a fictional creation of my own mind. And not very useful for public consumption. Your own defence of Mr. Swastika’s sign on the basis of ‘payback’ for all the unflattering (and sometimes true) said over that l-o-n-g winter of the Bush Presidency strikes me as being too close to the junior cheerleader’s vow to TP the home of a crosstown high school football team’s coach. Put the pom-poms down. The world gets more interesting after high school.
I like this one – she’s a blithering idiot:
and there are few correspondents like Chris Matthews that can pin someone down like he did with her.
I really liked when he took down Kevin James during the “appeaser” bit. Matthews’ Kung Fu is mighty.
he is not going to run for the Senate from Pennsylvania. I’d love to see him grilling folks in committee hearings….
..I don’t like Chris Mathews, but that woman was batshit crazy.
None of this would ever happened if leftists had not invented after 2000 with no precedent whatsoever the practice of comparing Presidents to Hitler.
I have compared the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war to the Nazi’s blitzkreig – invasion and occupation of Poland, etc.
You may certainly disagree with my opinion, but it is based in a historical framework….not something I suddenly dreamed up out of thin air.
As for swinging both ways, uh, [looks around], what’s that got to do with, uh, anything?
just a little over earnest and irony impaired.
Who is the leader of the Republican party? In Colorado? Nationally? Who is controlling the message? Noone that actually has to be accountable is running the ship. There doesn’t seem to be any adults left. The people deciding the message (and deciding who gets on stage) are the self promoting, look at me! types (Caldera, Malkin), and as a result there is no filter of the nuts (swastika guy). As long as they are led around by the nose by Limbaugh, they are going to operate on the fringe.
…speaking from the stage with Swastika Guy just off to his right, either.
To his credit, Sen. Penry so far is the only one of the entire crowd that shared the stage with Swastika Guy who has even remotely condemned him. Caldara on the air has tried to justify his presence with the “communists killed more people than the Nazis so why aren’t you complaining about them” bit. Silence from Coffman, Tancredo, Wadhams, Schultheis….
A silence that perhaps speaks volumes.
don’t want to offend the white supremacist, Christian identity crowd. They need all the fringe they can get.
By his logic, that means the ‘pubs were happy to have TWO jackasses associated with them and their message.
On Westword.com:
http://blogs.westword.com/late…
Caldara, Penry and Malkin seem to want to make the R’s the permanent minority party. While they waste their time drooling over dead pig, most Americans are saying Republicans need to start cooperating with President Obama. As the Post reports:
Instead of politicians, like Penry, trying to secure his fringe base for future political desires, why not try working to solve the problems our previous Republican administration put us in? The economic disaster is real and not something Penry needs to play his ego games with. Voters are very aware of their continuing lies.
Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years. Bush did his best to destroy the Bill of Rights in 8.
Guys that carry swastikas to political rallies should be put on a terrorist watch list and have the Patriot Act used against them.
That would give them the Bush treatment.
Obama is trying to shut down the stealth prisons where this guy belongs.The columnist and Caldara deserve the same, but Democrats do believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
As a matter of fact Democrats defend the rights of these hate mongers to practice free speech.
You’d think that their own sense of decency would stop them. Perhaps they are sociopaths.
I think that defending the right of free speech is something that transcends political party affiliation.
If you think that defending the First Amendment is somehow indecent, I feel sorry for you.
…I had no idea what he was talking about.
Here’s what I focused on:
“As a matter of fact Democrats defend the rights of these hate mongers to practice free speech.
You’d think that their own sense of decency would stop them. Perhaps they are sociopaths. ”
I am not sure who “they” are. Pronouns give me heartburn. If you have a different interpretation, I’m all ears.
Actually, I’m all nose, but that’s for a different thread.
to Republicans, not calling defenders of free speech sociopaths.
I wouldn’t say I completely agree with it, but Ray’s post made perfect sense to me. Much better than his diatribes about anonymity in other threads.
“If I changed the meaning of what you said, you didn’t say it very clearly.”
“A Wop Bop-a-Loo-Bop A Lom-Bam-Boom”
–Pat Boone
People here do hide behind their apparent anonymity to say hateful things just like the klan uses the sheet.
but I won’t post my name. I really don’t want to be fired; jobs like mine have been politicized lately, and it’s not hard to imagine some of my superiors disliking my comments.
Many people have similar reasons for anonymity. If you don’t, fantastic. I wish I were more like you in that sense. But I ain’t.
I ended up with an “I hate Dave Thielen” blog written by a 15 year old with poor grammer skills.
And how would a 15 year old get good grandmothering skills?
🙂
but Ray is most definitely the slightly less insane arm of the Nancy/skankore/Michael Dorsett sybill thing.
It’s really a fascinating way to waste an incredible amount of time.
Ray’s a little odd sometimes, but if Sybil could actually pull off a good impression of an angry leftist, I’d have a lot more respect for her. So far all her characters have had the same basic right-wing views.
Unless there’s evidence I missed or something.
I don’t know if that automatically makes it sybill, but all of the other sybill characters have made similar allusions to the KKK, and they’ve all made comments on anonymity.
Plus, it’s a first and last name combo, much like Nancy and MD. I don’t know, just a theory.
make KKK allusions. It’s hardly Sybil’s trademark.
I’m not insane. I just like to know who insults me.
I’ll apologize to everyone that I’ve offended, including Twitty and SPX, and try to be nice from now on.
I really am Ray Springfield, though I was born Ray Haskins. I took my adoptive father’s name.
I learned about 10 years ago when I filed a labor racketeering complaint with the FBI, and had my car totaled and apartment burned down under less than normal circumstances that it really doesn’t matter much to remain anonymous.
The only local politician that offered me any assistance then was AG Ken Salazar.
He’s a good man.
Maybe some of our more liberal set can understand now why I always defended him on this blog.
I’ve got no interest in arguing with you over your political views or anything. I may be a bit over-concerned with my marginal anonymity here, but it’s important to me, just as your personal history is important to you. So I’ll drop the insulting too, and I appreciate your maturity in proposing it.
And by the way, I’m fucking SXP not SPX, godfuckingdamnit.
(Just kidding.)
save and spell check…….thank you for accepting my apology
After reading your post, I feel much better about being irony impaired,
No Democrat is going to put these guys in jail.
Obama won’t.
Bush and Cheney had people arrested for less.
Republicans are hypocrites is the main point,
and Democrats will tolerate it because we believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Bush and Cheney threw people out and threatened with arrest for having John Kerry bumper stickers.
Nevertheless, the guy with the swastika probably has earned an FBI file.
Why don’t you file a FOIA request to find out?
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I was paid by the Ron Paul Re-LOVE-ution organization to go there to the protest in character as “Swastika Guy” to discredit the mainstream GOP organization.
It worked, apparently.
As an aside, it can really be emotionally draining to play a character that is 80 lbs less of a man than me, not to mention 4 inches shorter.
I am available to bring my”X”bama sign –
or really almost any other sign you specify –
to rallies organized by either of the 2 major parties.
I charge more to play a woman or person of color.
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After reading your post, I feel much better about being irony impaired.
It’s that simple. Lot’s of people attack me because I’m pro Israeli, a centrist democrat, a Wall of Tolerance honoree in a civil rights monument to which I was invited personally by Rosa Parks, a person who does know how tough politics can be (just check with the Colorado Supreme Court, The DA’s Office, Mayor Webb, and a large union)
Anonymous people remain so out of fear of reprisal for radical views, or to hide their own hate speech which they would never acknowledge if their names and faces were revealed.
I was raised and adopted by an African-American. Please name 2 other Anglos in the history of the state of Colorado who can make that claim.
I know bigotry and have been the target of hate speech.
Not everyone loves Raymond.
I can stand the heat.
use FOIA. Check me out. I have no qualms about standing up for who I am, or what I belive in.
and it starts to seem a little creepy.
Look, if you could cut down on the paranoia and wild-ass accusations and general nutjobbery, and just post things about politics, you’d be one of my favorite posters. But enjoying your stuff is like eating deep-fried candy bars. You like the stuff inside, but then you wonder why the fuck anyone would cover something good in something so dumb.
I have to say once again we don’t live in Bolshevik Russia. You are a coward. This post shows exactly what I’m talking about. You insult with unsubstantiated crap. You back your positions up with nothing but propaganda. You think racist statements are funny. You are afraid to expose yourself for fear that you will lose your job.
Your parrania probably reuires medication.
Seek a doctor’s help.
You really aren’t anonymous anyway.
Want to bet I can find out your name and publish it?
I have to say once again we don’t live in Bolshevik Russia. You are a coward. This post shows exactly what I’m talking about. You insult with unsubstantiated crap. You back your positions up with nothing but propaganda. You think racist statements are funny. You are afraid to expose yourself for fear that you will lose your job.
Your paranoia probably requires medication.
Seek a doctor’s help.
You really aren’t anonymous anyway.
Want to bet I can find out your name and publish it?
Really, calling people Bolsheviks? You do know the internet wasn’t around in the 1950s, right? I don’t even know what you’re parodying.
You can’t read. I’m not calling anyone a Bolshevik. Your paranoia of your identity is reminsicent of cowards thinking the Bolsheviks are out to get them.